Posted by Former Soviet citizen. on August 10, 2003 at 02:36:51:
In Reply to: Re: Treatment of Former UA Citizens Upon Entry posted by Izmayil Bound on August 09, 2003 at 07:10:44:
She is UA citizen entering Ukraine illigally on U.S. passport.
Yes, she is not former UA citizen. Law of Ukraine says if she did not properly quit Ukraine citizenship with PMZ stamp, registration with UA embassy and paying $600 for quitting UA citizenship she is UA citizen and can enter Ukraine only on UA passport.
Well, you might hope that they will not find out. It is impossible to erase accent completely, but here she might tell that her parents were from Ukraine or Russia or somewhere around. She might tell her story to friends or relatives and they might give her up because of they simply envy her. Here is thousands of possibilities to find out. Nothing might happen until she will try to exit Ukraine on U.S. passport. If they prove that she’s UA citizen, she might be charged with attempt of illegally exit Ukraine on U.S. passport. This is worst scenario. Possibly, nothing will happen. I don’t know what chance of getting major problems you are taking 1: 10, 1: 100 or 1: 1000 but think well before do something stupid. I hate those stupid rules inherited from arrogant Soviet Union, but this, actually, how it works.
: Define "properly". She came here in 1996 for a 1-year program, we met and married near the end of that time. We visited home in December 98 and she replaced her Soviet-style Zagrand passport and internal passport while there (ka-CHING! $$$$$), although nothing was said by OVIR about the PMZh stamp then and none was entered in her papers. It was discussed that she was married and intended to live abroad permanently. Leaving through Odessa at the end of that trip was a little problematic but we did get out. We've been through the greencard wait, stood in line at 5:00a at the local INS office several times, and she was naturalized as a USC last October. And no, she never registered with the Embassy in DC (we live in nearby Virginia and she works in DC). We agreed that there was no purpose to it and might only give UA authorities information they really had no need for and might possibly be used to her disadvantage.
: So being that she will be traveling as an American and not presenting any indication of her former status, how might her former activities (proper or not) affect anything other than perhaps as a target of opportunity for the thugs-in-green-hats at the airport? Certainly they'll have no details of what did or didn't happen on her way out of the country last time, other than by her speaking like a native (which she is).
: : Did she properly quit UA citizenship?
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