Posted by Former Soviet citizen. on August 12, 2003 at 07:08:02:
In Reply to: Thanks, Steve posted by Izmayil Bound on August 11, 2003 at 18:54:53:
I think you understand that not quitting UA citizenship/ not having PMZ stamp is making situation more complicate. I and Steve at least have this stamp. How to add up security to your trip?
I think, coming back on UA passport is not an option. You can try to get this stamp here. At least, UA embassy web-site is telling how to do that. But if you decided to go on U.S. passport I may suggest you not to go trough Borispol'. Here or at any another airport they are digging much more than on railway or bus station. If you travel by train Kiev-Warsaw (Warshava) they practically do not check "polish" car. You can buy ticket to this car only at Poland, not in Kiev. I think you can find it in internet. Also if you fly to Moscow and travel by train they only looking that you have visa in your passport, not computer record. If you choice this route you must have Russian visa too, but this will add you more options to leave. When I traveled three years ago I choused this route too, because when I traveled trough Borispol' they havenít get a look probably only into my ***hole. If you are interested in this route I can ask if there any changes in real procedure of crossing border between Russia and Ukraine.
Have a safe trip, come back without a problem and post it here. I'll be looking.
: This is the kind of information I am looking for.
: Our options, as I see it, are: 1) have my USC wife enter UA on her UA passport and attempt to get a PMZh stamp issued by OVIR in the two week period including New Years and Christmas without being financially raped (again!) in the process; or, 2) Leaving the UA passport at home, enter on a US passport and say nothing.
: Guess which seems best? Given the trouble we had last time, my wife refuses to have anything to do with her UA passport now and certainly would not consider even carrying it there.
: In any case, I'll definitely post what happens when we return. We're leaving here Christmas day and returning mid-January.
: : Dude, where are you geting this paranoia crap from? You do not quit your Ukrainian citizenship when you leave Ukraine anymore. You can quit your citizenship at any time without paying anything. The days of the iron wall are over.
: : I have both passports. I used to travel to Ukraine using my ukrainian passport until I got my US citizenship. I did register it with the consulate and I do have the PMZh stamp. When I got my US passport I started using it instead of the Ukrainian one.
: : I never quit my Ukrainian citizenship in the hopes that they will pull their heads out of their asses and make dual citizenship legal like in Russia and many other countries.
: : I have never had one problem, not with my Ukrainian passport not with my US passport. The only thing she needs to do is to never show two passports at the same time.
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